Psychology: John Stoll vs. James Sundquist Part II Dear Dr. Stoll, Thank you for taking the time to read the extensive documentation I sent you regarding my great concern over your use as well as the Church's use of Myers-Briggs and Carl Jung Philosophy. I also pray that my appeal will be in the spirit of II Timothy 2:25 and I Peter 3:5 that I might entreat you as an elder to sound the alarm on his Holy Hill. Your training under your father as well as your advanced education in theology are indeed impressive. So it as not as though I would be able to come up with some Scripture that you would respond and say: “thank you for telling me that verse, I never knew that was there.” My prayer is to remind you what they say, and in some cases I believe, in fact teach the opposite of what you propose as to their value to Christians or to marriage. You say that we should not throw out the baby with the bath water. I would like to submit, that there is not even a baby there. I invite you to find one religion in the entire Bible where the Lord invites us to take the good from the bad (hang on to the baby). Did Moses borrow from the Egyptian religion to “assist” the Israelites in what God gave them? Why destroy the golden calf? Are we to take the good from the bad in Molech? Ashtereths? Baal? The Assyrians (Jonah could have combined religions)? Mystery Babylon the mother of Harlots? The Greek Philosophers of this age where personality theory stemmed from? For a great article on personality theory, I invite you to read the following article. http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/temper.htm Why not take all of their good ideas and plug them into sanctification? Or are we to do what Paul said “What fellowship hath light with darkness” or 2Cr 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel. (answer: NO part.) I don't believe that you would argue that anything under the sun, or any other name under Heaven but Jesus, would be a useful tool for salvation. Yet you propose the same author and finisher of our salvation is not the complete author and finisher of our sanctification, meaning that we sure could use the help of MBTI. I can't imagine that you would ever state that you found “MBTI to be a fine instrument to assist you in understanding a couple's mindset”....to get saved, yet you have no problem with “MBTI to be a fine instrument to assist you in understanding a couple's mindset” to get sanctified.. Your proposition presumes that the Bible is helpful for sanctification but not alone sufficient for sanctification. For if it were, you would not propose another tool. Is Sola Scriptura sufficient for Salvation but insufficient for sanctification? Are you suggesting that Paul would state sarcastically “where is the philosopher of this age” in I Corinthian I:20, in the First Century, yet proclaim in the 21st Century “Please supply us with a philosopher of this present age to assist us in becoming fully sanctified”, or do anything for us spiritually for that matter. Would you agree that there can't be any such thing as a Christian Astrologer, Christian Divination practitioner, or Christian Necromancer, or Christian Evolutionist (if one believes this then they have to believe that Christ descended from a monkey or common ancestor). Aren't these all oxymoron's? Now if you agree, then all I need to prove is the Myers-Briggs/Jung was devised via divination, astrology, necromancy, belief in evolution, and Greek/Pagan mythology. If this is true then it is evil and diametrically opposed to Biblical Christianity. The theory and the validity of these personality tests are inextricably interwoven. Therefore, Myers-Briggs (and all other personality profiling tests) are a clear and present danger to the Church, not just for using it as a tool for sanctification, but for a Christian to derive any spiritual use for them. You have now proposed by defending MBTI what the Scripture clearly warns against....that a thorn bush can produce figs. And I don't know why Christians, particularly Christian leaders think we can seek counsel from the ungodly. I would like to comment in red the very Scriptures you use to defend the use of MBTI: Consider the Biblical injunction, "As newborn babies, crave the unadulterated milk of the Word, that you may grow thereby" (I Peter 2:2), and "But grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ" (II Peter 3:18) It is astonishing to me that you would select the very Scriptures you use to defend MBTI that I would use to refute its use. You advise those in marriage counseling to crave only the unadulterated milk of God's Word, then proceed to ween them on something that is not milk at all, but MBTI. Further this Scripture rightly states that this is how we grow. So if we are to grow in our marriage or repair it, we do this by drinking UNADULTERATED milk, not ADULTERATED SCRIPTURE MIXED WITH MBTI LEAVEN. For one of the very best articles on what the Bible says about mixture I invite you to read an excellent article by Jacob Prasch on Moriel.org Ministries entitled: http://ww2.moriel.org:8004/sermons/mixture.htm He also has two tapes on the subject entitled: “Dilemma of Laodicea” "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God---- Husbands love your wife, even as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it; that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the Word" (Ephesians5:21-26). Now this verse is certainly one of the best to use as advice for marriage. But is also one of the best for defining how to sanctify a marriage. Note two things about this verse: (1) Who is the sanctifier...the Lord, of course), (2) how is sanctification accomplished....by the washing of the water of the Word. So if the Lord and his word to sanctify a marriage, of what possible assistance (as you describe) can MBTI fulfill? MBTI is neither the subject of the verb nor the method described in this verse. "There should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care, one for another" (I Cor. 12:25). He also states that it is the Holy Spirit who places the members in the body, "As it pleases Him" (v.18). How do all members of the body of Christ receive the same care if nineteen hundred plus years did not have MBTI, while only Christians in the 21st Century get MBTI...and that being available only to a small percentage of Christians today who live in affluent countries? 1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. Now wouldn't you agree that sanctification is one of these things? So a natural man can not even know sanctification, so how can an MBTI tool be used to enable them to discern? And for Christians, if the things (sanctification) of God are spiritually discerned, how would MBTI even function? An MBTI can discern? Dogs bark, but they don't build bridges. You indicate that you use the Bible as a template overlay of the MBTI. Would you use a Ouija Board, a starscroll, or a Mandela with the Bible? If you are going to use the Bible as a filter or litmus test, you would hardly be able to miss all of the Scriptures which prohibit use of these kind of tools. You also indicated that 8 types or indicative of human behavior regardless of worldview. Well I must tell you that there is no Biblical injunction or division of personality types. The entire personality theory is based on pagan-occult Greek mythology and fables not facts. And even if these schematics were true, how would that matter to the Bible's solutions? *** This ends the Scriptures you quoted in your article and letter to me. Now I have taken the liberty of listing every single appearance of the words “sanctify” and “sanctified” to get a complete picture of what the Bible means by the word. I have added my commentary in red to various passages. I want to be thorough, so included them all, but only commented on the ones which I though bore direct relevance to your defense of MBTI as a valid tool for sanctification. Exd 13:2 Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, [both] of man and of beast: it [is] mine. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 19:10 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 19:22 And let the priests also, which come near to the LORD, sanctify themselves, lest the LORD break forth upon them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 19:23 And Moses said unto the LORD, The people cannot come up to mount Sinai: for thou chargedst us, saying, Set bounds about the mount, and sanctify it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 28:41 And thou shalt put them upon Aaron thy brother, and his sons with him; and shalt anoint them, and consecrate them, and sanctify them, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 29:27 And thou shalt sanctify the breast of the wave offering, and the shoulder of the heave offering, which is waved, and which is heaved up, of the ram of the consecration, [even] of [that] which [is] for Aaron, and of [that] which is for his sons: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 29:33 And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate [and] to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat [thereof], because they [are] holy. A stranger can't be sanctified but neither can a non-Christian be sanctified, so how would it even be possible for a MBTI to even be used to “sanctify” a marriage? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 29:36 And thou shalt offer every day a bullock [for] a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 29:37 Seven days thou shalt make an atonement for the altar, and sanctify it; and it shall be an altar most holy: whatsoever toucheth the altar shall be holy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 29:44 And I will sanctify the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar: I will sanctify also both Aaron and his sons, to minister to me in the priest's office. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 30:29 And thou shalt sanctify them, that they may be most holy: whatsoever toucheth them shall be holy. The word sanctify here means to be made holy. How is it possible that MBTI devised by man can make anything holy? 1Cr 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. In both cases, it requires a least one partner in the marriage to be a Christian before sanctification is even possible! So how is MBTI even allowed into this equation? Do you administer MBTI to non-believers? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. So if we are sanctified by the word of God and prayer why do we even need MBTI to be personally sanctified, let alone to give it any power to sanctify our marriage? 2Ti 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, [and] prepared unto every good work. If this is how you get sanctified so that you are now prepared for EVERY good work, doesn't every mean every? What is lacking that we need MBTI to do any “good” work on our marriage? Aren't we required to purge ourselves of anything dishonorable such as occult based MBTI so that we can become sanctified? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified [are] all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [for all]. If we are sanctified by the offering of Jesus Christ, how can MBTI contribute anything? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Once again, the blood of Jesus, the perfect blood without spot or blemish does the sanctifying. So how does MBTI contribute anything to the blood? As soon as you add MBTI to Christ's blood, you now have added something with spot and blemish. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jud 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, [and] called: So we are sanctified by God the Father and by MBTI? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it [is] a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that [ye] may know that I [am] the LORD that doth sanctify you. I thought the Lord plus MBTI sanctifies us? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 40:10 And thou shalt anoint the altar of the burnt offering, and all his vessels, and sanctify the altar: and it shall be an altar most holy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 40:11 And thou shalt anoint the laver and his foot, and sanctify it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 40:13 And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest's office. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 8:11 And he sprinkled thereof upon the altar seven times, and anointed the altar and all his vessels, both the laver and his foot, to sanctify them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 8:12 And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron's head, and anointed him, to sanctify him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 11:44 For I [am] the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I [am] holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 20:7 Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I [am] the LORD your God. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 20:8 And ye shall keep my statutes, and do them: I [am] the LORD which sanctify you. Not MBTI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 21:8 Thou shalt sanctify him therefore; for he offereth the bread of thy God: he shall be holy unto thee: for I the LORD, which sanctify you, [am] holy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 21:15 Neither shall he profane his seed among his people: for I the LORD do sanctify him. Not MBTI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 21:23 Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them. Not MBTI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 22:9 They shall therefore keep mine ordinance, lest they bear sin for it, and die therefore, if they profane it: I the LORD do sanctify them. Not MBTI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 22:16 Or suffer them to bear the iniquity of trespass, when they eat their holy things: for I the LORD do sanctify them. Not MBTI Lev 27:14 And when a man shall sanctify his house [to be] holy unto the LORD, then the priest shall estimate it, whether it be good or bad: as the priest shall estimate it, so shall it stand. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 27:16 And if a man shall sanctify unto the LORD [some part] of a field of his possession, then thy estimation shall be according to the seed thereof: an homer of barley seed [shall be valued] at fifty shekels of silver. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 27:17 If he sanctify his field from the year of jubile, according to thy estimation it shall stand. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 27:18 But if he sanctify his field after the jubile, then the priest shall reckon unto him the money according to the years that remain, even unto the year of the jubile, and it shall be abated from thy estimation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 27:22 And if [a man] sanctify unto the LORD a field which he hath bought, which [is] not of the fields of his possession; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 27:26 Only the firstling of the beasts, which should be the LORD'S firstling, no man shall sanctify it; whether [it be] ox, or sheep: it [is] the LORD'S. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Num 11:18 And say thou unto the people, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow, and ye shall eat flesh: for ye have wept in the ears of the LORD, saying, Who shall give us flesh to eat? for [it was] well with us in Egypt: therefore the LORD will give you flesh, and ye shall eat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Num 20:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Num 27:14 For ye rebelled against my commandment in the desert of Zin, in the strife of the congregation, to sanctify me at the water before their eyes: that [is] the water of Meribah in Kadesh in the wilderness of Zin. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deu 5:12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deu 15:19 All the firstling males that come of thy herd and of thy flock thou shalt sanctify unto the LORD thy God: thou shalt do no work with the firstling of thy bullock, nor shear the firstling of thy sheep. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jos 3:5 And Joshua said unto the people, Sanctify yourselves: for to morrow the LORD will do wonders among you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jos 7:13 Up, sanctify the people, and say, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow: for thus saith the LORD God of Israel, [There is] an accursed thing in the midst of thee, O Israel: thou canst not stand before thine enemies, until ye take away the accursed thing from among you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Sa 16:5 And he said, Peaceably: I am come to sacrifice unto the LORD: sanctify yourselves, and come with me to the sacrifice. And he sanctified Jesse and his sons, and called them to the sacrifice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Ch 15:12 And said unto them, Ye [are] the chief of the fathers of the Levites: sanctify yourselves, [both] ye and your brethren, that ye may bring up the ark of the LORD God of Israel unto [the place that] I have prepared for it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Ch 23:13 The sons of Amram; Aaron and Moses: and Aaron was separated, that he should sanctify the most holy things, he and his sons for ever, to burn incense before the LORD, to minister unto him, and to bless in his name for ever. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 29:5 And said unto them, Hear me, ye Levites, sanctify now yourselves, and sanctify the house of the LORD God of your fathers, and carry forth the filthiness out of the holy [place]. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 29:17 Now they began on the first [day] of the first month to sanctify, and on the eighth day of the month came they to the porch of the LORD: so they sanctified the house of the LORD in eight days; and in the sixteenth day of the first month they made an end. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 29:34 But the priests were too few, so that they could not flay all the burnt offerings: wherefore their brethren the Levites did help them, till the work was ended, and until the [other] priests had sanctified themselves: for the Levites [were] more upright in heart to sanctify themselves than the priests. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 30:17 For [there were] many in the congregation that were not sanctified: therefore the Levites had the charge of the killing of the passovers for every one [that was] not clean, to sanctify [them] unto the LORD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 35:6 So kill the passover, and sanctify yourselves, and prepare your brethren, that [they] may do according to the word of the LORD by the hand of Moses. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neh 13:22 And I commanded the Levites that they should cleanse themselves, and [that] they should come [and] keep the gates, to sanctify the sabbath day. Remember me, O my God, [concerning] this also, and spare me according to the greatness of thy mercy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isa 8:13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and [let] him [be] your fear, and [let] him [be] your dread. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isa 29:23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. Eze 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I [am] the LORD that sanctify them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I [am] the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I [am] the LORD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 44:19 And when they go forth into the utter court, [even] into the utter court to the people, they shall put off their garments wherein they ministered, and lay them in the holy chambers, and they shall put on other garments; and they shall not sanctify the people with their garments. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 46:20 Then said he unto me, This [is] the place where the priests shall boil the trespass offering and the sin offering, where they shall bake the meat offering; that they bear [them] not out into the utter court, to sanctify the people. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe 1:14 Sanctify ye a fast, call a solemn assembly, gather the elders [and] all the inhabitants of the land [into] the house of the LORD your God, and cry unto the LORD, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jhn 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. So if the word of God sanctifies us, what does MBTI do? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jhn 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, Again, it is the washing of the word of God that sanctifies us not MBTI! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and [I pray God] your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. So, if we are made wholly, not partly sanctified by God, what can MBTI add? Are we partly sanctified by God and partly sanctified by MBTI? You add up the parts to get the whole (wholly)? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Once again, if it is Jesus' own blood that sanctifies us, we are to now mingle a mixture of his blood with MBTI to sanctify us? If we did, it would be no longer perfect, but contaminated! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: SANCTIFIED Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 19:14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exd 29:43 And there I will meet with the children of Israel, and [the tabernacle] shall be sanctified by my glory. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 8:10 And Moses took the anointing oil, and anointed the tabernacle and all that [was] therein, and sanctified them. I wonder how Moses could have completed the job of sanctification without the help of MBTI? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 8:15 And he slew [it]; and Moses took the blood, and put [it] upon the horns of the altar round about with his finger, and purified the altar, and poured the blood at the bottom of the altar, and sanctified it, to make reconciliation upon it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 8:30 And Moses took of the anointing oil, and of the blood which [was] upon the altar, and sprinkled [it] upon Aaron, [and] upon his garments, and upon his sons, and upon his sons' garments with him; and sanctified Aaron, [and] his garments, and his sons, and his sons' garments with him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 10:3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This [is it] that the LORD spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace. Since when did the authors of MBTI come nigh unto him? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 27:15 And if he that sanctified it will redeem his house, then he shall add the fifth [part] of the money of thy estimation unto it, and it shall be his. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lev 27:19 And if he that sanctified the field will in any wise redeem it, then he shall add the fifth [part] of the money of thy estimation unto it, and it shall be assured to him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Num 7:1 And it came to pass on the day that Moses had fully set up the tabernacle, and had anointed it, and sanctified it, and all the instruments thereof, both the altar and all the vessels thereof, and had anointed them, and sanctified them; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Num 8:17 For all the firstborn of the children of Israel [are] mine, [both] man and beast: on the day that I smote every firstborn in the land of Egypt I sanctified them for myself. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Num 20:13 This [is] the water of Meribah; because the children of Israel strove with the LORD, and he was sanctified in them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deu 32:51 Because ye trespassed against me among the children of Israel at the waters of Meribah-Kadesh, in the wilderness of Zin; because ye sanctified me not in the midst of the children of Israel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Sa 7:1 And the men of Kirjathjearim came, and fetched up the ark of the LORD, and brought it into the house of Abinadab in the hill, and sanctified Eleazar his son to keep the ark of the LORD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Sa 16:5 And he said, Peaceably: I am come to sacrifice unto the LORD: sanctify yourselves, and come with me to the sacrifice. And he sanctified Jesse and his sons, and called them to the sacrifice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Sa 21:5 And David answered the priest, and said unto him, Of a truth women [have been] kept from us about these three days, since I came out, and the vessels of the young men are holy, and [the bread is] in a manner common, yea, though it were sanctified this day in the vessel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Ch 15:14 So the priests and the Levites sanctified themselves to bring up the ark of the LORD God of Israel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 5:11 And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy [place]: (for all the priests [that were] present were sanctified, [and] did not [then] wait by course: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 7:16 For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 7:20 Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it [to be] a proverb and a byword among all nations. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 29:15 And they gathered their brethren, and sanctified themselves, and came, according to the commandment of the king, by the words of the LORD, to cleanse the house of the LORD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 29:17 Now they began on the first [day] of the first month to sanctify, and on the eighth day of the month came they to the porch of the LORD: so they sanctified the house of the LORD in eight days; and in the sixteenth day of the first month they made an end. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 29:19 Moreover all the vessels, which king Ahaz in his reign did cast away in his transgression, have we prepared and sanctified, and, behold, they [are] before the altar of the LORD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 29:34 But the priests were too few, so that they could not flay all the burnt offerings: wherefore their brethren the Levites did help them, till the work was ended, and until the [other] priests had sanctified themselves: for the Levites [were] more upright in heart to sanctify themselves than the priests. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 30:3 For they could not keep it at that time, because the priests had not sanctified themselves sufficiently, neither had the people gathered themselves together to Jerusalem. 2Ch 30:8 Now be ye not stiffnecked, as your fathers [were, but] yield yourselves unto the LORD, and enter into his sanctuary, which he hath sanctified for ever: and serve the LORD your God, that the fierceness of his wrath may turn away from you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 30:15 Then they killed the passover on the fourteenth [day] of the second month: and the priests and the Levites were ashamed, and sanctified themselves, and brought in the burnt offerings into the house of the LORD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 30:17 For [there were] many in the congregation that were not sanctified: therefore the Levites had the charge of the killing of the passovers for every one [that was] not clean, to sanctify [them] unto the LORD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 30:24 For Hezekiah king of Judah did give to the congregation a thousand bullocks and seven thousand sheep; and the princes gave to the congregation a thousand bullocks and ten thousand sheep: and a great number of priests sanctified themselves. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ch 31:18 And to the genealogy of all their little ones, their wives, and their sons, and their daughters, through all the congregation: for in their set office they sanctified themselves in holiness: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neh 3:1 Then Eliashib the high priest rose up with his brethren the priests, and they builded the sheep gate; they sanctified it, and set up the doors of it; even unto the tower of Meah they sanctified it, unto the tower of Hananeel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neh 12:47 And all Israel in the days of Zerubbabel, and in the days of Nehemiah, gave the portions of the singers and the porters, every day his portion: and they sanctified [holy things] unto the Levites; and the Levites sanctified [them] unto the children of Aaron. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Job 1:5 And it was so, when the days of [their] feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings [according] to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isa 5:16 But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isa 13:3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, [even] them that rejoice in my highness. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 20:41 I will accept you with your sweet savour, when I bring you out from the people, and gather you out of the countries wherein ye have been scattered; and I will be sanctified in you before the heathen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 28:22 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Zidon; and I will be glorified in the midst of thee: and they shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I shall have executed judgments in her, and shall be sanctified in her. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 28:25 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that I have given to my servant Jacob. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I [am] the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eze 48:11 [It shall be] for the priests that are sanctified of the sons of Zadok; which have kept my charge, which went not astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jhn 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jhn 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Act 20:32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Act 26:18 To open their eyes, [and] to turn [them] from darkness to light, and [from] the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. So we are sanctified by both faith in Christ and faith in MBTI? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rom 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. So which is it....the Holy Spirit that Sanctifies us, or the Holy Spirit plus MBTI? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Cr 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called [to be] saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Cr 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 1Cr 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2Ti 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, [and] prepared unto every good work.   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified [are] all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [for all]. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hbr 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? If Christians can now believe that MBTI or any Psychology is helpful or useful to sanctification of one's marriage, this is indeed a frightening prospect, as it suggests that they something OTHER than the Blood to Sanctifies themselves. Once again, if it is Jesus' own blood that sanctifies us, we are to now mingle a mixture of his blood with MBTI to sanctify us? If we did, it would be no longer perfect, but contaminated! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jud 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, [and] called: You indicate that “God loves Carl Jung”. Are you suggesting that God loves Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Judas? Now it is certainly true that we don't know the absolute destiny of any person (except where Scripture tell us their final destiny), as they could repent on their deathbed. But we are certain that short of that, they will perish eternally in the Lake of Fire. Does God love everyone that is going to Heaven and to Hell? Surely you are not suggesting that. Doesn't Paul state in Galatians of those who were preaching another gospel (and Jung & MBTI are clearly another gospel) that they be eternally condemned (accursed)? So, does God love them too? Does Jesus love the Pharisees whom he called sons of the Devil? If you are Calvinist, God would love only the Elect, whomever that might be. Does this mean he loves the NonElect? This almost suggests Universal Salvation. You suggest that we can learn from the ungodly, yet the Bible tells us NOT to seek counsel from the ungodly? Now I will concede the Lord is not saying we can't get counsel from a non-Christian plumber, or computer repairman. But concerning spiritual matters, they can offer nothing. If the natural man understands not the things of the spirit, how could he possibly give counsel on what he does not understand or even possess? Besides this, it is more than just learning something from an ungodly person, using and implementing their MBTI is practicing what is ungodly. Even if you were somehow able to learn something true by divination as Saul practiced with the Witch of Endor, look what happened to Saul. He dies in battle the next day. I would hardly call that sanctifying his marriage. If God forbids it, what blessing can accrue from it. You rightfully have discounted Carl Jung. But MBTI is nothing without Carl Jung. You can't renounce one without denouncing the other! This reminds me once again of Saul saying that he kept the sheep (kept the baby) in order to be able to offer sacrifices to the Lord. But what did the Lord say? “Obedience is better than sacrifice.” And this was assuming the baby even had value. In the case of MBTI, it is based on imagined theories of personality. We are to cast down vain strongholds of imagination not promote them. Jung did not bungle psychology. Psychology itself is a bungle of the Scriptures and being obedient to them. Psychology doesn't even have the nature of man right, so this does make it innately wrong. Psychology tells us there is only Body and Soul. While the Bible tells us there is Body, Soul & Spirit. That is foundational. And as Psalm 11:3 declares “If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?” Psalm 11:3 ** Finally, I am not totally clear where you are regarding Roman Catholicism except your statement: “I had the privilege of spending 5 years at Notre Dame University receiving my Ph.D. In Counseling.” As you grew upon a Fundamentalist family, I am sure you are quite aware of the host of doctrines in Roman Catholicism which collide with the Scripture. None of this should be new to you. But I have added this resource anyway because it was written by a former Roman Catholic priest who converted to Christianity and has written extensively exposing Mystical Christianity which is very related to the influence of Carl Jung on the Church. I have done my own documentary where I show a picture of the Pope kissing the Koran. Richard Bennett's article on Father Brennan Manning is: http://cultlink.com/sentinel/multnomah.htm Richard Bennett's own website is: http://www.bereanbeacon.org I echo your words and thank you also for listening and hope and pray that after this you will be as convinced of the bankruptcy of MBTI as you are the philosopy of Carl Jung. If the above Scriptures don't convince you, I don't know what more I can tell you, except to say that were you to change your mind and heart on this, you could be a valuable soldier and leader in evangelizing your fellow natives (psychologists) and the Church Growth Movement that is not only implementing MBTI into the Church, but is forcing them to take these tests to become and stay members. I know many people whose lives have been shattered in churches because they opposed Hybels, Warren and Carl Jung. Kindest regards in Christ our Savior, James Sundquist